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  1. gary

    gary

    Guest
    I had to crack the whip and get our users to start deleting emails, as we

    were over 70% of storage space on our exchange 2003 server.

    Knocked deleted items retention down to zero, and of course one person

    deleted a whole folder of emails they need.

    so when I go and create a recovery storage group and try to do a restore, I

    get a " e000848f - Insufficient disk space" error.

    I have 50 gig mail store, 25 gig free. so for staging I need at least 50

    gig free, right?

    since I do not have enough storage free, is there a quick workaround?

    I tried locating the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive on our file

    server, but get an error "specified destination drive is not a fixed drive"

    do I have any options, other than waiting for people to delete storage,

    doing offline defrag to recovery whitespace, and THEN doing the restore of

    the folder?
     
  2. gary

    gary

    Guest
    at home I have a 120 gb hard drive in an usb enclosure.

    would I be able to locate the Recovery Storage drive on an external USB

    drive like that if I connect it to the exchange server?

    "gary" <garym_dontspamme_@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:30ED32D9-190F-4C83-BA90-7BD099CCC1B9@microsoft.com...
    > I had to crack the whip and get our users to start deleting emails, as we
    > were over 70% of storage space on our exchange 2003 server.
    > Knocked deleted items retention down to zero, and of course one person
    > deleted a whole folder of emails they need.

    > so when I go and create a recovery storage group and try to do a restore,
    > I get a " e000848f - Insufficient disk space" error.

    > I have 50 gig mail store, 25 gig free. so for staging I need at least 50
    > gig free, right?

    > since I do not have enough storage free, is there a quick workaround?

    > I tried locating the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive on our file
    > server, but get an error "specified destination drive is not a fixed
    > drive"

    > do I have any options, other than waiting for people to delete storage,
    > doing offline defrag to recovery whitespace, and THEN doing the restore of
    > the folder?

    >
     
  3. Ed Crowley [MVP]

    Ed Crowley [MVP]

    Guest
    Okay, you shouldn't be doing a backup and restore to compact a database.

    Instead you should perform one of the following options, in order of

    decreasing preference. Option 1 is only available to you if you are running

    Enterprise Edition.

    1. Create a new mailbox database. Move all mailboxes to it. Dismount the

    old store. Delete the .edb and .stm files. Mount the database. You'll

    have a shiny new tiny database. The database to which you moved all the

    mailboxes will be more or less minimum size. Take a backup to ensure you

    can recover and to clear the transaction logs.

    2. Dismount the store and run ESEUTIL /D.

    Ed Crowley MVP

    "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

    > .

    "gary" <garym_dontspamme_@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:30ED32D9-190F-4C83-BA90-7BD099CCC1B9@microsoft.com...
    > I had to crack the whip and get our users to start deleting emails, as we
    > were over 70% of storage space on our exchange 2003 server.
    > Knocked deleted items retention down to zero, and of course one person
    > deleted a whole folder of emails they need.

    > so when I go and create a recovery storage group and try to do a restore,
    > I get a " e000848f - Insufficient disk space" error.

    > I have 50 gig mail store, 25 gig free. so for staging I need at least 50
    > gig free, right?

    > since I do not have enough storage free, is there a quick workaround?

    > I tried locating the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive on our file
    > server, but get an error "specified destination drive is not a fixed
    > drive"

    > do I have any options, other than waiting for people to delete storage,
    > doing offline defrag to recovery whitespace, and THEN doing the restore of
    > the folder?

    >
     
  4. gary

    gary

    Guest
    do not have enterprise unfortunately.

    I was going to have to do the offline defrag anyway.

    and when I do I will have to do it to a mapped drive on the file server,

    since I do not have enough space available on the exchange server.

    Which is why I cannot do a restore of a deleted folder before the offline

    defrage, due to not having sufficient space on the exchange server drives.

    that is what I am trying to get around, I would like to restore the folder

    BEFORE the offline defrag.

    you cannot locate the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive, so I was

    hoping I could do it on a usb external drive.

    I found the following link, looks like it can be done, if you restart

    SERVER service and run NET SHARE.

    http://blogs.technet.com/ericnor/ar...ails-with-0xa0008488-in-backup-executive.aspx

    I will give that a shot over the weekend.

    gary

    "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@nospam.net> wrote in message

    news:OUxTz7ZAKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Okay, you shouldn't be doing a backup and restore to compact a database.

    > Instead you should perform one of the following options, in order of
    > decreasing preference. Option 1 is only available to you if you are
    > running Enterprise Edition.

    > 1. Create a new mailbox database. Move all mailboxes to it. Dismount
    > the old store. Delete the .edb and .stm files. Mount the database.
    > You'll have a shiny new tiny database. The database to which you moved
    > all the mailboxes will be more or less minimum size. Take a backup to
    > ensure you can recover and to clear the transaction logs.

    > 2. Dismount the store and run ESEUTIL /D.
    > > Ed Crowley MVP
    > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
    > .

    > "gary" <garym_dontspamme_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:30ED32D9-190F-4C83-BA90-7BD099CCC1B9@microsoft.com...
    > >I had to crack the whip and get our users to start deleting emails, as we
    > >were over 70% of storage space on our exchange 2003 server.
    > > Knocked deleted items retention down to zero, and of course one person
    > > deleted a whole folder of emails they need.
    >

    >> so when I go and create a recovery storage group and try to do a restore,
    > > I get a " e000848f - Insufficient disk space" error.
    >

    >> I have 50 gig mail store, 25 gig free. so for staging I need at least 50
    > > gig free, right?
    >

    >> since I do not have enough storage free, is there a quick workaround?
    >

    >> I tried locating the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive on our file
    > > server, but get an error "specified destination drive is not a fixed
    > > drive"
    >

    >> do I have any options, other than waiting for people to delete storage,
    > > doing offline defrag to recovery whitespace, and THEN doing the restore
    > > of the folder?
    >

    >>

    >
     
  5. Ed Crowley [MVP]

    Ed Crowley [MVP]

    Guest
    A recovery storage group is used for a different purpose, though. It's not

    a production database.

    I suspect that you're not going to be pleased with the performance of a USB

    drive.

    Ed Crowley MVP

    "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

    > .

    "gary" <garym_dontspamme_@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:E0F2CFA9-FE69-418A-B414-6933A5C07D60@microsoft.com...
    > do not have enterprise unfortunately.

    > I was going to have to do the offline defrag anyway.

    > and when I do I will have to do it to a mapped drive on the file server,
    > since I do not have enough space available on the exchange server.

    > Which is why I cannot do a restore of a deleted folder before the offline
    > defrage, due to not having sufficient space on the exchange server drives.

    > that is what I am trying to get around, I would like to restore the folder
    > BEFORE the offline defrag.

    > you cannot locate the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive, so I was
    > hoping I could do it on a usb external drive.

    > I found the following link, looks like it can be done, if you restart
    > SERVER service and run NET SHARE.

    > http://blogs.technet.com/ericnor/ar...ails-with-0xa0008488-in-backup-executive.aspx

    > I will give that a shot over the weekend.

    > gary

    > "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <curspice@nospam.net> wrote in message
    > news:OUxTz7ZAKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > > Okay, you shouldn't be doing a backup and restore to compact a database.
    >

    >> Instead you should perform one of the following options, in order of
    > > decreasing preference. Option 1 is only available to you if you are
    > > running Enterprise Edition.
    >

    >> 1. Create a new mailbox database. Move all mailboxes to it. Dismount
    > > the old store. Delete the .edb and .stm files. Mount the database.
    > > You'll have a shiny new tiny database. The database to which you moved
    > > all the mailboxes will be more or less minimum size. Take a backup to
    > > ensure you can recover and to clear the transaction logs.
    >

    >> 2. Dismount the store and run ESEUTIL /D.
    > > > > Ed Crowley MVP
    > > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
    > > .
    >

    >> "gary" <garym_dontspamme_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:30ED32D9-190F-4C83-BA90-7BD099CCC1B9@microsoft.com...
    > >>I had to crack the whip and get our users to start deleting emails, as we
    > >>were over 70% of storage space on our exchange 2003 server.
    > >> Knocked deleted items retention down to zero, and of course one person
    > >> deleted a whole folder of emails they need.
    > >
    >>> so when I go and create a recovery storage group and try to do a
    > >> restore, I get a " e000848f - Insufficient disk space" error.
    > >
    >>> I have 50 gig mail store, 25 gig free. so for staging I need at least
    > >> 50 gig free, right?
    > >
    >>> since I do not have enough storage free, is there a quick workaround?
    > >
    >>> I tried locating the Recovery Storage Group on a mapped drive on our
    > >> file server, but get an error "specified destination drive is not a
    > >> fixed drive"
    > >
    >>> do I have any options, other than waiting for people to delete storage,
    > >> doing offline defrag to recovery whitespace, and THEN doing the restore
    > >> of the folder?
    > >
    >>>

    > >
     
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