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"All Day Event" Time Display Issue

Discussion in 'Using Outlook' started by Sm9obkI, May 29, 2009.

  1. Sm9obkI

    Sm9obkI

    Guest
    I noticed that when I create an all day event that just lasts a single day if

    I do not know an exact start time but want it to show on the calendar, in a

    table calendar view the event shows as being two days when it is really one.

    The format shows it starting at 12:00AM and ending at 12:00 AM the following

    day.

    The logical thing that should happen is when you check the "All Day Event"

    the time goes from 12:00AM on the start date to 11:59 PM on the end date,

    otherwise, when viewing the event in a table view, it looks like it is

    carrying over an extra day.

    Any solution for this?

     
  2. Diane Poremsky

    Diane Poremsky

    Senior Member
    What version of Outlook?

    on an open message All day events should say

    Start: date 12AM

    End: same_date 12 AM

    and span one day on the Day/Week/Month view.

    I don't know why it doesn't also say the same day in a table view - but it

    really is just a 1 day event.

    "JohnB" <JohnB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:CBB77C2A-4C7E-4677-964F-231C80351E16@microsoft.com...
    > I noticed that when I create an all day event that just lasts a single day
    > if
    > I do not know an exact start time but want it to show on the calendar, in
    > a
    > table calendar view the event shows as being two days when it is really
    > one.
    > The format shows it starting at 12:00AM and ending at 12:00 AM the
    > following
    > day.

    > The logical thing that should happen is when you check the "All Day Event"
    > the time goes from 12:00AM on the start date to 11:59 PM on the end date,
    > otherwise, when viewing the event in a table view, it looks like it is
    > carrying over an extra day.

    > Any solution for this?


     
  3. Brian Tillman

    Brian Tillman

    Senior Member
    "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp@msn.com> wrote in message

    news:DCF67176-107E-4AC3-A015-33A3A96C6870@microsoft.com...


    > on an open message All day events should say
    > Start: date 12AM
    > End: same_date 12 AM

    > and span one day on the Day/Week/Month view.


    My open all-day events don't have a time value for the start and end times on

    the Appointment tab but they do have12:00AM for both the Start and End time on

    the Recurrence dialogue (when there's a recurrence).


    > I don't know why it doesn't also say the same day in a table view - but it
    > really is just a 1 day event.


    In a table view, they show 12: AM on the event date for a start time and 12:00

    AM the next day for an end time, so the Recurrence dialogue is consistent with

    the table view.

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  4. Diane Poremsky

    Diane Poremsky

    Senior Member
    What version of outlook do you use? My recurrences don't show an end date

    for the first occurrence, just 12 am start, 12 am end in the recurring

    dialog. They have the first start and end date/time in a table view which

    is identical to non-recurring events.

    "Brian Tillman " <tillman1952@yahoo.com> wrote in message

    news:umfZcqI4JHA.6004@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp@msn.com> wrote in message
    > news:DCF67176-107E-4AC3-A015-33A3A96C6870@microsoft.com...
    >
    > > on an open message All day events should say
    > > Start: date 12AM
    > > End: same_date 12 AM
    >

    >> and span one day on the Day/Week/Month view.


    > My open all-day events don't have a time value for the start and end times
    > on the Appointment tab but they do have12:00AM for both the Start and End
    > time on the Recurrence dialogue (when there's a recurrence).
    >
    > > I don't know why it doesn't also say the same day in a table view - but
    > > it really is just a 1 day event.


    > In a table view, they show 12: AM on the event date for a start time and
    > 12:00 AM the next day for an end time, so the Recurrence dialogue is
    > consistent with the table view.
    > >


     
  5. Sm9obkI

    Sm9obkI

    Guest
    I am using Microsoft Outlook 2003. I do not have the event set up as a

    recurring event. In the "events" view I set up the start and end formats to

    show both the date and the time.

    Even for the already loaded holidays the "Duration" field only shows that it

    lasts 1 day, but the Start indicates i.e. 5/25/2009 12:00 AM and the End

    indicates 5/26/2009 12:00 AM. The problem I'm running into is since this is

    a shared calendar of events, when users are looking at the calendar in the

    "Events" view, an event that is created and set as an "All Day Event" looks

    like is two days in duration when it is really only one. Some users are

    becoming confused by it. I'm trying to think of a solution to eliminate

    this problem, but logically, an all day event should only go from 12:00 AM to

    11:59 PM and not 12:00 AM to 12:00 AM. It is a programming issue in outlook

    that needs to be fixed for the "All Day Event" selection. It occurs in

    Outlook 2007 as well.

     
  6. Diane Poremsky

    Diane Poremsky

    Senior Member
    Are you using the table view? It's fine in the Day/Week/Month view - it's

    shown on one day and opened events are 5/25 12 am to 5/25 12 am.

    You can make the events 12 AM to 11:59 pm (technically, it would be

    11:59:59.9) if you want, or add the duration field to the view so the users

    can see its 1 day.

    "JohnB" <JohnB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:20137FDD-BCE0-4761-AFEA-8FFAAA92CFEC@microsoft.com...
    > I am using Microsoft Outlook 2003. I do not have the event set up as a
    > recurring event. In the "events" view I set up the start and end formats
    > to
    > show both the date and the time.

    > Even for the already loaded holidays the "Duration" field only shows that
    > it
    > lasts 1 day, but the Start indicates i.e. 5/25/2009 12:00 AM and the End
    > indicates 5/26/2009 12:00 AM. The problem I'm running into is since this
    > is
    > a shared calendar of events, when users are looking at the calendar in the
    > "Events" view, an event that is created and set as an "All Day Event"
    > looks
    > like is two days in duration when it is really only one. Some users are
    > becoming confused by it. I'm trying to think of a solution to eliminate
    > this problem, but logically, an all day event should only go from 12:00 AM
    > to
    > 11:59 PM and not 12:00 AM to 12:00 AM. It is a programming issue in
    > outlook
    > that needs to be fixed for the "All Day Event" selection. It occurs in
    > Outlook 2007 as well.


     
  7. Sm9obkI

    Sm9obkI

    Guest
    Yes, it is in the Table view that the start and end fields display the event

    as being two days but when I add the duration field, it does only say 1 day.

    I'm going to use both those workarounds, but I still think it is a bug that

    microsoft needs to fix. I tried calling them and all I could get was the

    charge support and I said I'm not going to pay to report a programming bug to

    you guys.

     
  8. Diane Poremsky

    Diane Poremsky

    Senior Member
    Outlook's table views have always shown the end date this way - I wouldn't

    look for it to change anytime soon as it wasn't a priority in the last 14

    yrs.

    In all honesty, I've heard more about this in the last 3 months than I heard

    in the previous 14 yrs. It took a few weeks to even figure out why some

    people said the all day event ended a day later - most people seem to use

    the Day/Week/Month view, not a table view. Now to figure out why people are

    suddenly using table views...

    "JohnB" <JohnB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:18F50CDC-14EF-430E-B5E9-CC5311616B82@microsoft.com...
    > Yes, it is in the Table view that the start and end fields display the
    > event
    > as being two days but when I add the duration field, it does only say 1
    > day.
    > I'm going to use both those workarounds, but I still think it is a bug
    > that
    > microsoft needs to fix. I tried calling them and all I could get was the
    > charge support and I said I'm not going to pay to report a programming bug
    > to
    > you guys.


     
  9. Brian Tillman

    Brian Tillman

    Senior Member
    "JohnB" <JohnB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:20137FDD-BCE0-4761-AFEA-8FFAAA92CFEC@microsoft.com...


    > Even for the already loaded holidays the "Duration" field only shows that it
    > lasts 1 day, but the Start indicates i.e. 5/25/2009 12:00 AM and the End
    > indicates 5/26/2009 12:00 AM.


    That's normal. All my all-day events in both Outlook 2003 display that way.


    > The problem I'm running into is since this is
    > a shared calendar of events, when users are looking at the calendar in the
    > "Events" view, an event that is created and set as an "All Day Event" looks
    > like is two days in duration when it is really only one. Some users are
    > becoming confused by it. I'm trying to think of a solution to eliminate
    > this problem, but logically, an all day event should only go from 12:00 AM
    > to
    > 11:59 PM and not 12:00 AM to 12:00 AM. It is a programming issue in
    > outlook
    > that needs to be fixed for the "All Day Event" selection. It occurs in
    > Outlook 2007 as well.


    Are these other people in a different time zone or do they not have the same

    DST settings you use?

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  10. UGFyYWxUZWNo

    UGFyYWxUZWNo

    Guest
    I'm not sure you understand what John is saying. I use the day-week-month

    view [Microsoft Office 2007 Outlook--I'm gradually forgetting how 2003

    works]. The point is that, once you send an "all day" to OTHER calendars, it

    appears on those calendars as two days [no matter the view], but everyone

    wants the "all day" setting (instead of some particular time-to-time) because

    it appears at the top of the day's list of events, rather than occupying some

    space for any duration on your calendar--and crowding the calendar

    unnecessarily.

    Start a new calendar event, then on the "show" tab [or "access toolbar"

    or "ribbon"], click on "scheduling." [I don't remember how this works in

    Outlook 2003.] Under "scheduling," despite the appearance on my calendar that

    'all day' runs from 6/1/09, 12 AM to 6/1/09, 12 AM [the same day--and appears

    only on 6/1 when I 'save and close'], you can see in "scheduling" that the

    'start' and 'end' times are actually 6/1/09, 12 AM to 6/2/09 12 AM [and you

    cannot effectively edit this setting and, at the same time, preserve the 'one

    day' checked box]. Obviously, there's some logic there--'all day' is 24

    hours, not zero hours, but Outlook cannot read 12 AM to mean both the

    beginning of the day (6/1) AND the end of the same day (6/1), rather than

    reading the second time as the next day (6/2). When others recieve that

    "appointment," their Outlook reads it [6/1/09 12 AM to 6/2/09 12 AM] as two

    days--the event is an 'all day' event that stretches across two days, despite

    the fact that it is only a one day event. This happens consistently to

    everyone else who is synchronized with my calendar (some of whom run 2003 and

    some run 2007) on the same network.

    To me, the solution for Microsoft should be that, in the "scheduling"

    'start' and 'end' times, i should be able to permanently change and program

    the definition of 'start' and 'end' times for "all day"; e.g., I may want to

    define "all day" for my Outlook to always consist of 8 AM to 12:00 AM

    [meaning the end of the same day]. Or, on the fly, I want to be able to

    adjust the definition of 'start' and 'end' of 'all day' in "scheduling" for

    particular appointments. (Whoever receives my calendar events, can open them

    and see the details of start and end time.)

    "Brian Tillman " wrote:


    > "JohnB" <JohnB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:20137FDD-BCE0-4761-AFEA-8FFAAA92CFEC@microsoft.com...
    >
    > > Even for the already loaded holidays the "Duration" field only shows that it
    > > lasts 1 day, but the Start indicates i.e. 5/25/2009 12:00 AM and the End
    > > indicates 5/26/2009 12:00 AM.


    > That's normal. All my all-day events in both Outlook 2003 display that way.
    >
    > > The problem I'm running into is since this is
    > > a shared calendar of events, when users are looking at the calendar in the
    > > "Events" view, an event that is created and set as an "All Day Event" looks
    > > like is two days in duration when it is really only one. Some users are
    > > becoming confused by it. I'm trying to think of a solution to eliminate
    > > this problem, but logically, an all day event should only go from 12:00 AM
    > > to
    > > 11:59 PM and not 12:00 AM to 12:00 AM. It is a programming issue in
    > > outlook
    > > that needs to be fixed for the "All Day Event" selection. It occurs in
    > > Outlook 2007 as well.


    > Are these other people in a different time zone or do they not have the same
    > DST settings you use?
    > >

    >


     
  11. Brian Tillman

    Brian Tillman

    Senior Member
    "ParalTech" <ParalTech@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

    news:1649D100-B92F-4524-8D96-6601B12BF87B@microsoft.com...


    > I'm not sure you understand what John is saying. I use the day-week-month
    > view [Microsoft Office 2007 Outlook--I'm gradually forgetting how 2003
    > works]. The point is that, once you send an "all day" to OTHER calendars, it
    > appears on those calendars as two days [no matter the view], but everyone
    > wants the "all day" setting (instead of some particular time-to-time)
    > because
    > it appears at the top of the day's list of events, rather than occupying
    > some
    > space for any duration on your calendar--and crowding the calendar
    > unnecessarily.


    Not for me, unless the people viewing the other calendars use a different time

    zone.

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